I agree that this movie is Disney’s darkest. That part really disturbed me when I was little, I refused to watch it for years and I’d run out of the room or hide under the covers whenever my siblings would put it on and that scene would come on, I’d also have recurring nightmares about being turned into a donkey and being shoved into a crate sometimes along with my siblings and cousins. The rest… they are put to work like slaves and those who have even the capability to protest the conditions they are put in are silenced. No dark messages or meanings. But take it from someone who loved Pinocchio as a child (and still do as an adult) you don’t catch these things. I have a real history with Pinocchio and I love the movie dearly. Satisfied,now? I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. In some cases, they are in the open. In the end, the only happy people are Pinocchio and Gepetto. This article is fascinating to me… I think with how long its been since I last watched Pinocchio I’ve managed to iron out the details into much brighter things in my head. Pinocchio and the Soy Conspiracy is a YTP by Power Cat Productions. I’ll need to read a review or something because what I liked about rthe villain was her theatrical villainy. Sure he doesn’t have to face a dragon but hey, at least Phillip was well equipped. The Coachman may be got away unpunished,but after Pinocchio’s escape has probably interrupted his business on Pleasure Island. The temptations the fairy warned against seem to be affecting even our guide. You honestly don’t call that distinguished or successful? But behind the explicit meaning is yet another meaning. However I think there is something a lot darker about the older disneys snow white for example, you wouldn’t catch someone trying to stab someones heart nowadays in Disney! The Internet is a Golden Corral for these theories and we eat them up like it’s a weekday special. And for those who do manage, it takes lies to get there. I cried whenever the Coachman came on the scene and was abusing the boys now turned into donkeys, Another movie I never liked was Bambi and I guess it was because Bambi’s mother dying offscreen never had an effect on me. Luring them with treats is characteristic of pedophiles, yes, but in this context it seems it was simply to turn them into donkeys so he could sell them. There was many villains in Dumbo. I watched this movie for the first time since my childhood and man, so many implicit dark meanings you only understand as an adult. It brings to mind Spring Breakers, which had a slightly more adult take on the pleasures and perversions of Pleasure Island. The Artifice is an online magazine that covers a wide spectrum of art forms. Many pedophiles never act on and go to great difficulties to overcome these attractions, and must face the status of assumed child molester that misuses of the term exactly like this create for them. I also found Disney Wiki’s analysis of their own movie a bit of an interesting read, particularly this chunk: “Origin– I watched it recently and I forgot how dark it is! That part is really disturbing. As for the ones who could still talk, I had thought- although I could be wrong- that he was just holding them there until they, too, lost their ability to speak. It is never explicitly stated it was in fact her but it can be no one else. He says; “They never come back as boys”. The Coachmanis the owner of the island and takes all the bad boys collected by himself (or others he hires for the job) from various towns and villages to the island. now of course when you’re little you have no idea what the F is going on, but you just get scared. She is watching it for the first time. Kids found something to be scared of adults found something else, including but not limited to slavery and pedophilia. That’s just my take, but Pinocchio wasn’t raised. You could say the same of bambi..people are the villains. great post Becky! Thank you so much. Gideon is a short, slender brown anthropomorphic cat with a tan face and a neck, a cream muzzle, green eyes, a lavender shirt with a yellow cape, white opera gloves, purple pants, and an old gray top hat. Vengence is an old testament outdated solution. However, when the scene with the coachman came on I was shocked by the entire scene. I hated Pinocchio as a kid because of the donkey transformation scene. In fact, in a way none of what Pinocchio said was a lie. Following a nuclear strike on Italy, a Blue Fairy comes down and brings Pinocchio to life. First of all, it has been a LOOONG time since I saw this movie because I really detested it. And this system would continue for well over a century, long after the basic BatB story would be resolved. And this is where Pinocchio does what no Disney film has ever done and will ever do in the future, they allowed the tragedy to continue. Not in the conventional sense but lies nonetheless, lies in the sense that the Blue Fairy tells Pinocchio to prove himself in ways no other person in the movie could. As you point out, many of the more recent films tie up all the loose ends or even offer perspectives that explain why “bad” behavior is a reaction to some other inequality (I’m thinking of Maleficent here). It is not necessarily the act of sexual behaviors with children. Honest John is not so terrified of Stromboli because this last one has shown his true nature to no one but Pinocchio,Monstro as a whale behaving in contrast with his nature is,according to Disney,the evil in the body of an animali, that’s why is a whale and not a shark or dogfish like in the Collodi’s book. IN a last ditch effort to appear the victim in the trail of events that he enjoyed up till the end while not going to school as he was told, Pinocchio lies about being chopped into fire wood–even though it is clear that he is whole. However, I didn’t see any evidence that the coachman was a pedophile. In Pinocchio, boys go to Pleasure Island and can do whatever they like. Tragic enough when looked at on the surface, more so when one looks under the dark coat. Gepetto is a weirdo and people probably know that. And anyone who knows what insane asylums were like in the late 1700s into the early 1800s (the time that the film is presumably set) know that they were more like hellish prisons than they were places to seek treatment, with inmates treated like caged dying animals. “It’s a Wonderful Life” also follows the same aesthetic with mean old Mr. Potter. Honestly, Tarzan was not really about defeating villains either and lo, Clayton still got the axe. (I’m sorry for my English LOL). The boy had literally no idea what a school was before he was being sent to one. Thank you for your thoughtful insight and analysis! I came away from it feeling sick. Yes, Frollo was sex-obsessed, but at least he was explicit about it. I look forward to rewatching with your analysis in mind. https://disneyvillains.fandom.com/wiki/Pleasure_Island?oldid=132095. Happily ever after only for some people. The main point of the film is Pinocchio’s coming of age, learning from mistakes, saving his master, and finally becoming a boy. I need to go tell his father! I know on the IAWL board, there are threads that pop up wondering why Potter never received punishment. Netflix’s The White Tiger Trailer: Create Your Own Fate, The Complex Lessons of Environmentally-Motivated Animation, Samurai Jack: Exploring the Newfound Maturity. I could compare it with a (softer) scene of Dumbo, when the baby elephant becomes sick and delirious after drinking a bucket of champagne. Every character is a perfect rapresentation to show better the moral of the story. Basically, anything Jews come up with is designed to unseat order in the universe, from Pinocchio to compound interest and nuclear weapons. there are so many subliminal messages in Disney movies, more so the older ones which is why they aren’t just for kids, but for adults too. No human in the movie acts like this so it must be assumed that the Blue Fairy wants Pinocchio to be that model. Free booze, free smokes, free property destruction, free ice cream, a fight club, and any old thing a young juvenile delinquent might want, per 1940s movie standards. Turns out I’m not crazy. As the movie portrays it as a lie, here again is the second lie told by either the movie or Pinocchio himself, depending on how it is spun. This suggests he wasn't always a donkey. Her very direct role in giving him life and saving his life, as a sort of model of goodness despite all odds against him in the most dire of situations, he needed her desperately. Gepetto just sends Pinocchio, a new life, into the world without any advice or guidelines of what to avoid altogether. Gepetto is the victim and his puppet is the villian from beginning to end. I know it’s awful, but what can you do? When he starts jabbering about a boy made of wood and is now his son he’ll likely get thrown into an asylum and pinocchio will end up in a workhouse. I watched this movie as a kid and watched it again today, many years later as an adult with my own child. I mean I sort of get what you mean, but it’s not completely accurate. Another thing to point out, in pleasure island the kids dont do anithing bad “per se” (except destruction), they gamble, play pool, drink and smoke. What is the first thing that comes to mind about Pinocchio? 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